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02/18/17 09:19 AM #91    


David 0. Hughes

I just went back up through the several pages of this forum.....

Normally, this forum is pretty quiet unless a reunion is about to happen, or just happened.  Andy's post generated a lot of discussion which I have found very interesting.  Clearly there are strong feelings and disagreement with what has been posted, but I am not sure that is all bad.  Most of us have not seen one another very much in a long time.  We have all led lives and had experieinces that make us quite different than we were 47 years ago.  I am all for remembrances, and enjoy that they bring back memories or shed light on something that was going on under my nose that I did not see or know then. I also like, however, being taken out of my comfort zone sometimes.

We have beaten this one up sufficiently, I think, but the forum was used in a way that I have not seen before.  I hope that continues.

Peggy, what did you mean that you are usually all in for controversy?  Did I recall that comment correctly?

02/18/17 09:33 AM #92    

Dan Goodenow


I agree with some of what you've said and most importantly the comment about service to our country.  I really think it would solve a lot of the current problems associatd with the later teen years in our country.  Mandatory service, military or non-military could help give direction to many of the young folks that seem lost, unfocused and so on.  It would also tend to  maybe give them a shared experience, confidence, leadership and problem solving skills and an understanding of others, less fortunate.  My two years, serving in Vista certainly helped to give me direction and a base to build on in later years.  I think it could do the same for many others.  There are a bunch of countries, Nigeria, for one, that do this. 

I bet Andy agrees with this idea...


02/18/17 10:06 AM #93    


Peggy Hughes (St. James)

Dave Hughes. Love controversy. Union Rep, one of the VP's of my teachers union, sat at the negotiating table. Always felt it was my duty to tell the emperor he wasn't wearing any clothes and most emperors don't appreciate it!  HaHa!  Really into social justice issues. Volunteered a lot on Hillary campaign. And so on. Now who expects that from a cheerleader.!  

02/18/17 10:10 AM #94    


Peggy Hughes (St. James)

STAY TUNED, Classmates. Kathy Lockwood will soon be posting notice of a Florida get together this March for snowbirds, vacationers, and residents of the sunshine state (and #1 state of wacky news). (Sorry, Kathy. Wanted to build up suspense)

02/18/17 10:15 AM #95    


Peggy Hughes (St. James)

Dave Hughes. Forgot to mention. Florida, where I did my teaching, is a southern right-to-work state. Influence of unions is not automatic. Not like NYSUT. Also, can't count the number of times the teachers were all riled up, legitimately, on this issue or that. Would talk to me privately so I'd get up in a faculty meeting and relay the concern. DEAD SILENCE from teachers. Heads down. 😮

02/18/17 11:06 AM #96    

Doug P. Allen

I'm pretty late to the party on favorite teachers.... I had one definite favorite..... Sally Covington.  What a personality and a fearless woman.....teaching Black History in a pretty white school!    Mr. Glossner...English teacher and Debate Coach was always encouraging, but really.... with her bright smile, and engaging approach to her students, Sally Covington is one I will always remember and one I wish I had not lost touch with! (please excuse ending that in a preposition!)

02/18/17 02:21 PM #97    

Ellen S. Schwalenstocker (Schwalenstocker)

I never had Ms. Covington. However, my younger sister Nancy and my much younger neice Amy both had her at Mendon and continue to name her as one of their best teachers ever (something about diagramming sentences . . . ) My sister Nancy became an English major and was very inspired by Sally Covington. I agree  with others that typing was a most useful class. I think I took it in summer school, and I don't think I had your Mom as the teacher, Peggy. My neice still talks about Miss Conway, who also moved over to Mendon and was an extremely talented choreographer. 

02/18/17 08:52 PM #98    

Mike Rose

I'm going to weigh in but stay away from controversy !   I had Sally Covington for Black History senior year.  She was great and got us thinking outside our white world a little.  David Clark ( he of Aston Martin fame ) brought Skakespeare to life for me.  Rodney Taylor tried to teach me to write creatively  ( failed,  but it was fun ! )

Just 3 that stand out for me.   PS.   Peggy,   I failed your mother's typing class and am still paying for to this day!

02/19/17 07:40 AM #99    

Dan Goodenow


Great to hear from you.  I would have been right there failing with you in the typing class.


I always thought the cheering was great.  My only complaint was when I hear that one that went, "Dan, Dan, He's our man, If ...".  It sort of distracted and embarrassed me when I was on the field and it came up.

On the other hand, maybe it helped me overcome that type of thing and helped make me more comfortable with taking a challenge or putting myself out there.  (Like writing this stuff...)

More to the point, maybe the cheer was for Danny Kropp and not even for me!  :)

Do you remember that purple dinosaur that the cheerlearders had?  What was the story behind it?

I also loved the pep band and so on...


02/19/17 07:57 AM #100    


Peggy Hughes (St. James)

Dan, That was Peppy. I think it may have been pronounced Pepe (Don't know how to do the accent mark). I have no idea where he came from. I think we did the name cheer for EVERY player.  As for cheering, both my sister Barb (cheerleader) and I ended up with lumbar laminectomies (L4L5) so thinking all that back bending jump stuff caught up with us later in life!

02/19/17 11:51 AM #101    

Doug P. Allen

BTW, I thought that the cheerleaders were great! wife pulled out a file that my had some from my mom to my ex and then to us.... Lots of old Progress Reports from Allen Creek School (I really don't remember any of the teachers beyond Mrs. Garvey in 5th grade)....and from Mendon Junior High....and from Pittsford Sutherland.... a "Meritorious Award" for Varsity Baseball (1968 season).... I was manager, didn't play.... and my Star Scount Award from Troop 19 (Tay House) from 1965.... and some college "stuff" as well....  

I cannot take credit for preserving it.... My mom, my ex and Joan have done that!

02/19/17 02:09 PM #102    

Lanny Traber (Traber)

I think this was one of the apple machines.  I loved it.  I can't remember how much the apples cost.  I was always trying to scrounge up money to buy one.  

02/19/17 02:13 PM #103    

Lanny Traber (Traber)

Peppy the dinosaur.

02/19/17 02:25 PM #104    

Thomas A. Roach


Mike, how could you possibly leave out the numerous 3rd periods spent at Uncle John's Pancake House with Jay, Bob Quinlan, you and me. Those were some good times. 

I think Beth said it best, Jay was a true gentleman.




02/19/17 04:06 PM #105    

Lanny Traber (Traber)

I have great memories from high school. My favorite teachers were Mr. Lenio, Mrs. Hamm and Mrs. Spicer.  I feel all three of them had a passion for teaching and truly cared about their students.  I always enjoyed Mrs. Hamm's gem of wisdom of the day.  Senior year I had a lot of fun playing blackjack and euchre in the Senior lounge.  I have to admit that I skipped way too many of Mrs. Gratian's math classes to go to the lounge.  I'm not sure how I was able to pass her class.  

02/19/17 04:13 PM #106    

Paul North (North)

Apples:  10 cents

The memories of our teachers are great...but what happened to them?  Any suggestions on how to find out about when they retired or where they are now?  Where did they go?  They must be in their 80's, 90's, or have passed on to their eternal rewards.  To paraphrase what Macarthur famously said, "Old teachers never die, they just fade away."

Who taught driver's ed? (Remember the big 8 cyl, six passenger, blue Chevy we drove?) Who was the Indian woman who taught us 9th grade history?  Frau Bach making us German students all throw away our gum one day when we all went in chewing gum on purpose.   Who was the math (or English?) teacher in 8th grade who threw dinner plates during class when she was frustrated with us?  What happened to Mr. Snyder who taught science in Junior High?  (I seem to remember he was missing a finger or two due to an encounter with a snapping turtle.)  Did anyone have Mrs. Drake in 6th grade?

Fun to hear the memories.  Thanks for sharing.

02/19/17 05:36 PM #107    

Norine Stagnitto (Rausch)

Hi All:

The Driver's Ed teachers were Mr. Murphy and Mr. Rollins.  What I heard from my brother, who's friend knew Mr Snyder, was that he lost his finger in a power saw accident.


02/19/17 10:21 PM #108    


David 0. Hughes

I have had to dig deep for remembrances.  Before high school, Miss Davis in 4th grade and Mr. Sarbo in 5th.  He taught me a life lesson that I recall to this day. Brian Bell in history had an impact.  I reconnected later as a sub teacher at Sutherland...interesting experience in a new context. I would love to apologize to Miss Lauffer.  We gave her hell in German class. I did not take Art Class, but I think that Mr. O'Brien had a huge impact.  There were some talented people in school, and he brought that out.  Howard Tappen was spectacular with music and choir.  He figured out (I think) that getting some jocks to join choir would make it "ok". They did, and the choir, Select Chorus, and Madriagal was pretty good.  I could sing then, and still can....and enjoy it.

Harold McAuliffe and John Dennison both had amazing voices.  I heard them a few years after school perform an opera at Highland.  Pretty impressive.

I look at Home economics and cannot help but wonder.  It was a puzzle then, but I have become a very good cook and enjoy the heck out of it.  I would not have been caught dead near that then.

Peggy, Pepe might not have an accent, but if it did it would be on the first e.

Paul, good question about former teachers.  They would all be quite old.  Several have made reunions, but I expect that is probably not going to happen any more.

That picture is THE apple machine.  There was only one. I loved the apples.  Imagine, eating good food. Thanks Lanny.  Actually, it was the future teachers picture in the yearbook.

02/20/17 08:10 AM #109    

Dan Goodenow

Just some quick comments before I start work:


Thanks for the pictures, I just went on-line and did a quick search on "Fruit-O-Matic" vending machines and  a company in Glendale, CA came up showing an advertizing poster that was an exact match.  I definately had the color wrong.  The caption said it was from the 50's.  Judging by the two kids in the photo, I would have to agree with that.  I love their outfits!  Pretty funny.  Do I have it correct in that we were only allowed to wear blue jeans on Fridays?  I used to tell that to my boys and they'd get a hoot out of that too.


Troop 19?  Was that the same one that Bob, Jim and Greg were in?  Kropp and I were in the Bushnell Basin troop in 8th grade.  I also reached Star.  Kropp beat me out and reached Life...


Yea, that was it, Pepe!  About your back, My one son Paul has had a bad back in the same place, for about a year now and it is really a handicap.  I can imagine how that cheering bending and so on could be bad.  In college, I took one gymnastics class and after learning just a basic hand spring as a part of the required moves, I said to myself, "Okay Dan, that's enough of this".  The instructor was Gene Wettstone, a former olympic coach and after giving me a 9.0 on my final hand spring test, he turned to me and said, "Dan, I appreciacte your effort in class, but you really won't go far with this." I asked why and he said, Because you don't have any kinesthetic sense."  I asked, what's that? and he said, "It's when your brain knows what your body parts are doing as they are moving!"  All I can say is that he got that one correect!  Maybe he saved my back.  To this day I enjoy watching sports like gymastics, figure skating and so on...  The operative word is "watching".


I didn't know Jay well, but I agree, he did seem like a gentle soul back then.


Did get to chat with coach Borrosh at the last reunion.  Don't know if you remember that our track was built around the baseball field instead of the typical football field.  In all my years, I've never seen another one that shape.


I had Coach Ordiway as my driver ed instructor.  Had Wendy Dischinger and Jeff Lewis in the car.  I still remember Jeff's first drive on I think it was called the expressway.  Great fun...


How cool that you still like to sing.  I was in a school chorus in 7th grade in a diiferent town and got pushed off the risers during a school concert. That was the end of that type of singing.  I still like to sing and do some open-mike, singer-songwriter singing and guitar stuff around MA.  Bob Legge had and still has a great voice.  He did most of the singing in our old HS band.

It amazes me how many students of our class ended up teaching.  Dan Kropp not only was a teacher, but became a Principal!  I'd love to have been sent down to his office for dicipline!  "But Mr Kropp, I was told that back in your day, you....  :)  He retired and works in the energy conservation field now.  Soon to retire from that.  Bob Legge, Dan and Jim Womeldorf and I still email frequently.  All are doing well...

The other thing that amazes me is how many clubs, sports and activities we had available to us.  Our local high school of about the same size has about half of those offered back in our PCS days.  Is it just my local school?


02/20/17 02:59 PM #110    


Wendy Dischinger (VanVoorhis)


I've been reading along and enjoying my memories!!! I do remember our driver ed class with Mr. Ordiway!  I was picking my daughter up from school in Victor, probably 1991 and I saw Mr. Ordiway, which I knew couldn't be!! When she got in the car I pointed him out and said he looked exactly like my driver ed teacher! She said it's  " Mr. Ordiway, football coach and driver ed teacher." It was his son! Blew me away!  Select chorus and Harold McCulliffe is my fondest memory! He really was there for me. Mrs. Spicer was my first teacher to greet me when I joined the freshman class in October from Henrietta. Didn't retain a lot of Latin but loved her. Continued visiting her after she retired. Never had Sally Covington but spent time with her (long story) listening to her journey and the prejudices she endured with grace and tenacity!!!  

REMINDER: 1969 class does a dinner around Xmas that I look forward to every year!!!  Hope more will join in!!  We were a very special class!! 


02/20/17 03:43 PM #111    

Gary W. Brown

Great to read all this from '68-'69 PCS classmates, I remember Mr. Ordiway as he was my homeroom teacher. I was not a 'jock' but her was always very nice to me. Gerry Sheppard was my Driver Ed teacher also a great guy and as was Doug Sheppard for mechanical drawing, I have great memories of a few; Mr. Nicely, Mr. Gumina, Mr. Bell, Mrs. Terho, Mr. Nipher and got on very well with Mr. Holsworth even though I was summoned to "room 103" for some horrible indiscretions I had committed. Mr. Shelly thought I needed a couple of years at a reform school (like Manlius) as I was such a hell raiser. I graduated and went on to get a college degree.In early years and spent 40+ years in the hospitality industry all over the USA, Canada and Mexico. I had a 86 homes on a  paper route delivering the Rochester Times Union much of it in "Sunset Meadows" a developement accross Jefferson Road from PCS. The paper was $.40 a week and when 'collecting' if folks gave you $45. you had just hung the moon! Many of the Wilmot family lived in Sunset Meadows and every one of them gave me $.50 (bucks deluxe!). The paper route took me from after school until darkness. I later went on to work at The Arrows Restaurant in Henrietta (and dated a Henrietta girl) and later The Depot as a bus boy and car parker. These were great years! I stay up with about 10 classmates from '67-'69 and consider Pittsford my home town. I am semi retired but do marketing consulting work for resorts and hotels in the US and Mexico. I am coming off an assignment this week in Boston and will return to my home in Williamsburg and my wife of 31 years. We will put 'a beast' on the barbie and maybe open a bold, sturdy Stag's Leap.

Love All Around! Gary W. Brown, PCS '68.

02/20/17 06:30 PM #112    


David 0. Hughes

Hey Dan;

I am guessing that Pittsford may not have as many clubs any more.  I don't have kids, but I think now you pretty much pay for extra curricular things like sports, clubs, etc.  We were lucky.  Of course now it seems that just a 4.0 average and great test scores won't get you into anywhere, so doing other things is mandatory.   I am happy not to be applying to colleges today.

02/20/17 06:31 PM #113    


David 0. Hughes

By the way, can someone tell me how to get a picture in the little box.  There is an admission of IT ignorance!

02/20/17 07:44 PM #114    

Robert E. (Bob) Koster

Mrs McClure threw the dinner plates.  Dave Snyder lost his pinky finger in a joiner accident.  I know that from my oldest brother who had his fingers partly chewed up the same way, but didn't lose any.  I call many of these teachers by their first names because I taught at Sutherland for 6 years.  Before I had Ann Gratian's class, she scared the hell out of me.  Once in her class, I thought of her as one of the best I had, and I had many of the same ones all of you thought were great.  Not much disagreement there.  I think it's pretty cool that we all appreciated them, and even more it seems as the years go on.

02/20/17 08:09 PM #115    

Lanny Traber (Traber)

Hi Dave, the way I uploaded a picture was to click on the "image" icon button next to the "Source" button on the top tool bar above.  You will then see a "Choose File" button.  If you click that it will give you a menu to choose where the picture is located.  Click the one where the picture can be found and then select the picture you want to upload. Once you select the picture then click on the "Upload" button.  Another way to upload a picture is to select a picture from your photo library or website and copy it.  Then in this Message Forum box paste the picture.  Let me know if you have any questions. 

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